I am generally OK with dailies I do a dozen without blinking, Then I get to buggy daily and die over and over or can’t find mobs or waiting on respawn or ferocious competition and its arrgh why am I doing dailies. Having said that I am coming to the end, All my reps are at least well into revered and as of this week their are only a few minor upgrades left for my main spec from valor.

But the overally regimented feel of mop bugs me. So many rules to encourage me into blizzards version of the correct play style.

1 Heroic a day, then reduced reward.1 scenario reward a day then reduced reward. A pittance of valor from killing raid bosses that so small I normally don’t worry about it and valor cap before I raid.

If you have Golden lotus dailies in your log they disappear on reset even if completed, same for august celestials but only sometimes and you never know when. On a day like today when I have nothing much to do I like to get a start on the next week’s daily but I can’t Made worse by the fact that with maintenance I won’t have a lot of time tomorrow. So I will have a mad dash of trying to do dailys and heroics and lfr and raid all in a few short hours.

Then you have the +50% valor on alts if you are already capped on your main, great but how it feels in practice is if your already have 500-600 valor on your main for the week you should probably cap it before you play alts .

Sometimes all I want to do is hop on and do a few pet battles or pvp a bit. But its not “efficient” so I don’t, Yes its my choice, but my choice within the framework of rules that blizzard has established.

Imagine WoW is a computer baseball game. In LK and Cata, when you got enough badges/VPs for a new piece of gear, let’s say that was like hitting a home run. What happens in the baseball game? Your player rounds the bases, touches home plate, and your team scores a run.

In MoP, w/ the added rep requirement, it’s more like this: you hit a homerun. Your player trots to first base. In between first and second, the umpire stops him, and says, “Before you can continue and score, you have to go to right field and catch twenty fly balls first.”

…WHA?!! How does that have anything to do with hitting the home run at all?

The problem is double gating raid items, more like triple gating for Shado-Pan and August Celestials, particularly when dailies lack a catch-up mechanism. So if you miss a day, you can’t make it up, even if you have 6 hours to spare another day.

If the dailies for the big four didn’t even unlock until week 2-3 there would be far less of an issue. If you were serious about raiding you couldn’t possibly get them in time for them to matter. Still would have had Cloud Serpent, Tillers, and Anglers.

“Dailies could still be optimal in terms of Rep per hour, but there would be options for those who felt they needed them.”

And what I said here:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7006896125

I certainly don’t particularly like dailies and I’d rather do something challenging or interesting. But rep grinds are rep grinds…except when the only way to do them is with dailies.

Vanilla had no reputations like Mists (AQ event was a server wide thing and a one time deal).

BC reps could be ground out in dungeons or turn-ins.

Same in Wrath.

Same in Cata.

Only in Mists are dailies the only option, and you can only do so many a day. Doesn’t matter if you can dedicate 5 hours on a day, can only do dailies for 30 minutes or whatever for the faction you need rep with.

That said…

““I have to do the maximum amount of dailies every day because it increases the probability that my guild will down Boss X a week earlier than we otherwise would by an amount less than 1%.”

Not so much.”

When you’re relatively undergeared for heroic modes (Paragon did at least two 25 man runs for their single 10 man team, just so you know) and wiping on DPS check bosses like Gara’jal at 1-2%, then yeah, the gear really matters.

Saying you don’t “have” to get the gear is like saying you don’t “have” to use flasks. Or “have” to get enchants/gems. Or “have” to wear pants.

It’s that they went out of their way to nerf Heroics [the content I did enjoy] down to an equivalent level of grind.

Right now, Heroics are (a) a lot less fun due to now being ridiculously easy, (b) three times grindy-er due to only providing a small fraction of the Valor they used to, and (c) no longer a source of reputation gains. So I still have to do dailies anyway.

Basically what Honorshammer above said with the double-gating. I was talking with my boyfriend about this a while ago: he prefers to do dailies and is annoyed that he can’t just buy gear at exalted because it all requires Valor. I enjoy dungeons but I can’t spend my Valor on the things I want because I haven’t grinded 600 dailies to get the required rep. Neither of us is satisfied with the current system, but for completely opposite reasons.

Totally down with using the words “have to” in this context.

“I have to do the maximum amount of dailies every day because it increases the probability that my guild will down Boss X a week earlier than we otherwise would by an amount less than 1%.”

Not so much.

I do think Blizzard could reduce some of the lamentations and beating of breasts associated with the current rep grinds if they added some alternate, if less efficient, sources of reputation. For example, by the end of Wrath you could earn reputation with the Sons of Hodir by searching for Everfrost Chips, buying Relics of Ulduar on the AH, or by running dungeons and purchasing Commendation Badges with whatever emblems were in those days. Dailies could still be optimal in terms of Rep per hour, but there would be options for those who felt they needed them.