Comments on: Use Your Pet

By: Echo

Echo — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:20:36 +0000

Just checked the last log i have from a 25m a week ago, (curse you job from keeping me from raiding!) I’ve chosen festergut as its a fight where I have maximum pet uptime. It’s an alt raid so I’ve done my best to get the right buffs in the raid and this was our fourth try and we killed 1sec before enrage. I’ve included 2 other hunters beneath my info who have similar gear. Karlung is Surv I believe and Eldilor is MM. Both myself and Karlung have wolves (only he has the spirit wolf you can no longer get, the lucky bastard) and eldilor is using a kitty.

Name Amount DPS DPS(e) Active Time
Echosnare 2481096 6.13% 8343.2 8242.9 297.4s 99.2%
HairyMclairy 342697 0.85% 1157.1 138.5 296.2s 98.8%

Karlung 2030186 5.02% 6801.8 6744.8 298.5s 99.6%
Tusse 338944 0.84% 1146.2 1126.1 295.7s 98.6%

Eldilor 1871887 4.63% 6329.8 6218.9 295.7s 98.7%
Nightfall 290475 0.72% 985.3 965.0 294.8s 98.3%

To be honest I rarely have trouble keeping my pet up. Most of the time as others have said JoL and MP suffice and they tend to soak some splash healing. The only occasions I’ve had trouble in WOTLK content is Mimiron (pretty much an intense pet management fight, avoiding the shock blast, fire, exploding orbs, fire, pulses from the cannon, fire, bomb bots and more fire) Yogg was annoying – although I’d leave him in the brain room munching away if I was on room duty but other wise stick him on a debuff tentacle and go to town on a big one. I can’t really think of a fight in TOC or ICC barring faction champs where I’ve had a problem with my pet. I do love the fact that i can put them on an orb on lanathel and completely neglect orb duties confident in the fact that hairymclairy is handling my biz.

I do remember vanilla wow where a lot of hunters didnt bother with pets purely because pets were so fragile they’d die on any fight with AOE anyway. Either that or they specced them so far into resistances to counteract the problems that the dps suffered.

Remember cower is a good skill to use when he takes a metric fuckton of dmg and if you want to be a cheater you can currently bug your pet using the call stable function to have a permanent mend pet (reported it already with no response – have not used it since I found it)

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Aspect of the Hare » Instancing Tips For New Hunters — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:33:13 +0000

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By: Pan

Pan — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:16:13 +0000

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but there are many ways to save your pet so you can use him/her in every fight. There’s not one fight that I go into personally without having my wolf inflicting gashing wounds to the boss’ kneecaps.

You can make a macro to magically warp your pet back to your side without losing much dps uptime or having your pet die.

/target (your name here)
/cast master’s call
/petpassive

Your pet will rush back to your side just in time to avoid a nasty shock blast or laser barrage from Mimiron, and it’ll removes all stuns and bonds from you and your pet, helping you get out of anything that might be slowing you down during a fight. Plus the passive script of the macro ensures that your pet won’t rush back into danger until you deem that it’s safe enough to do so.

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By: Rilgon Arcsinh

Rilgon Arcsinh — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:58:02 +0000

Spreadsheet’d: 1180 DPS out of composite 8537 DPS
In practice: 19-21% of roughly 6300 DPS

By: Oilcan

Oilcan — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:23:10 +0000

My wolf, Tito, does about 10-20% of my dps depending on the fight; I send him wherever the melee dps goes. I often run with a resto shaman and Tito rarely dies due to the chain heals.

Except when Blizz decides to autocast Growl…..

I’ll recall him to my side to heal up if he gets in real danger, or to keep him off an unattackable boss (in the air, for example). If it’s a boss fight over a few minutes, and he does die, I rez him when I get the chance. He means that much to me, dps-wise.

By: Ary

Ary — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:58:21 +0000

Just about the only time I don’t ahve my pet out is in Wintergrasp, between battles, or occasionally in WSG. As hunters, we are still one of the stealthiest classes about – Aspect of the Beast does alot to help that – and being able to move around, using actual cover, while not having any of the tracking classes able to pick you up on the mini-map, is really handy. As a Night Elf, having Shadowmeld to back this up makes his doubly potent. The combo allows you to ge closer to where you need to be without having to fight or draw unwanted attenton to you.

But when the scat hits the fan, you can bet it’s Woofie Time.

@ Pike – I”ve used a couple of shot macros both now and then, but the tenuous benefit they provide is always questionable. These days, I won’t use castsequence unless it’s on my melee attacks. Apart from that, the rest are either due to having mouse-over functionality (Mouse over Serpent Sting is a hoot with 2 piece T9; and I just started using Mouse Over Kill Shot with surprising success – curious to see how it pans with Steady and Explosive), or having flavour text – although rare, Pet rez, when it has to happen, gets an emote,.. just to rub it into the healing team that DIDN’T SAVE MA PUPPEH!!!11 >:O

By: Florentia

Florentia — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:10:07 +0000

Excellent post, and I totally agree on this. Just last night I was in a VoA pug with another hunter, and they whispered me all disheartened because they were doing so badly. A little way through one of the boss fights, he moved and stood next to me and there was his pet at his side doing nothing. I thought “Well there’s one of your problems right there”. This was on Archavon so there’s not really any AoE to be afraid of. I forgot to ask why he wasn’t using his pet unfortunately. If it’s a survivability issue, a lot of the time it’s easier to send it in to attack because of Bloodthirsty – if it’s by your side and there’s AoE being cast on the raid, you can only Mend Pet through it, which is not always enough. Mimiron is a good example of this – if my pet is at my side and I get napalm cast on me, it’s guaranteed death for the pet. If it’s attacking the boss though, it is safely out of range and you only need to pull it back before shock blast (I think that’s what it’s called!). Same for P2 – a combination of Mend Pet and Bloodthirsty is usually enough to keep him alive through the raid wide damage.

I think a lot of hunters who don’t use their pets, just have bad pet management skills and find it easier to just not bother – I used to be like that too, but fights like Mimiron have really taught me the importance of pet management and I think it’s something all hunters need to learn. It’s part of what being a hunter is about, and as others have said I’d be nothing without my loyal pet fighting alongside me.

By: Stance Dance Revolution

Stance Dance Revolution — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:50:25 +0000

I remember way back in the day (Pre-TBS) I saw someone on the forums posting about how pets weren’t worth the bother and he didn’t have any. Even back when pets actually required some work to keep happy they were clearly worth bothering with. Today there’s just no excuse, it’s quite bizarre.

By: Madison

Madison — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:49:35 +0000

I would never not have my pet out that’s just plain wrong if u ask me I love my pets too much to not have them out though I’m a 46 so I got no place to talk cuz the only time my pet dies is when I’m soloing and i’ve pulled to much on me and have to feign death :/ so yeah I have no room to talk but if I could make my 80 a hunter I would but healers r hard to find on my server so I really can’t :p