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	<title>Comments on: Pike Vs. Player: A Tragic Tale</title>
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		<title>By: Ziboo</title>
		<link>http://www.aspectofthehare.net/2009/08/pike-vs-player-a-tragic-tale.html/comment-page-1#comment-8129</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love pvp - not necessarily good at it but I do enjoy it.  Even good world pvp, although I rarely will initiated - the red=dead, but defend all the way down the line!

BGs - when it&#039;s in new bracket, half the time I&#039;m like watching what my opponent just hit me with more than fighting!  Still learning all the other classes spells!

Post 3.2 has brought it back with a vengeance, as I&#039;m thoroughly enjoying xp gains while in BGs.

The higher level BG&#039;s are interesting, although I&#039;m not enamored with WG as much as I here about it - probably my least favorite overall. IoC is still a bit crazy but energizing - parachuting into the base - too fun! SotA its okay, I&#039;ll queue for AV, AB or Warsong over it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love pvp &#8211; not necessarily good at it but I do enjoy it.  Even good world pvp, although I rarely will initiated &#8211; the red=dead, but defend all the way down the line!</p>
<p>BGs &#8211; when it&#8217;s in new bracket, half the time I&#8217;m like watching what my opponent just hit me with more than fighting!  Still learning all the other classes spells!</p>
<p>Post 3.2 has brought it back with a vengeance, as I&#8217;m thoroughly enjoying xp gains while in BGs.</p>
<p>The higher level BG&#8217;s are interesting, although I&#8217;m not enamored with WG as much as I here about it &#8211; probably my least favorite overall. IoC is still a bit crazy but energizing &#8211; parachuting into the base &#8211; too fun! SotA its okay, I&#8217;ll queue for AV, AB or Warsong over it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Theaah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theaah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been big into PVP, myself. I just don&#039;t feel like I have the skill set for PVP. Plus I definitely do not have the patience for it.

I only PVP once in a blue moon nowadays. Mostly the PVP achievements for the various world event metas (I actually kinda enjoyed the Children&#039;s Week one. The WSG I was in to get mine done in we actually played out while doing the achievement and ended up winning it, I think.) and idly working on getting the PVP mounts for the 100 mount achievement. :3

Then again, not much in WoW is keeping my attention lately. I log on to do dailies (cooking, fishing and JC) and raid and that&#039;s about it. I can&#039;t even get myself to do the Tourney dailies even though I want the pony for the argent squire and I&#039;d like some of the mounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been big into PVP, myself. I just don&#8217;t feel like I have the skill set for PVP. Plus I definitely do not have the patience for it.</p>
<p>I only PVP once in a blue moon nowadays. Mostly the PVP achievements for the various world event metas (I actually kinda enjoyed the Children&#8217;s Week one. The WSG I was in to get mine done in we actually played out while doing the achievement and ended up winning it, I think.) and idly working on getting the PVP mounts for the 100 mount achievement. :3</p>
<p>Then again, not much in WoW is keeping my attention lately. I log on to do dailies (cooking, fishing and JC) and raid and that&#8217;s about it. I can&#8217;t even get myself to do the Tourney dailies even though I want the pony for the argent squire and I&#8217;d like some of the mounts.</p>
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		<title>By: neutrallo</title>
		<link>http://www.aspectofthehare.net/2009/08/pike-vs-player-a-tragic-tale.html/comment-page-1#comment-8125</link>
		<dc:creator>neutrallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage EVERYONE to try out the new &quot;post 3.2&quot; low-level BGs.  The twinks have all but dissapeared already, and the match-ups recenty (at least in my brackets) have been pretty fair.

Now sadly, when you are outnumbered 15 to 5.. you are still gonna lose most of the time... BUT KEEP IN MIND that winning levels players faster (and therefore pushes them out of your current bracket faster).  So a week from now, the balance will likely shift and you could be looking at 15 versus 5 in your favor.

The new experience thing has pretty much de-stagnated the whole bracket system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage EVERYONE to try out the new &#8220;post 3.2&#8243; low-level BGs.  The twinks have all but dissapeared already, and the match-ups recenty (at least in my brackets) have been pretty fair.</p>
<p>Now sadly, when you are outnumbered 15 to 5.. you are still gonna lose most of the time&#8230; BUT KEEP IN MIND that winning levels players faster (and therefore pushes them out of your current bracket faster).  So a week from now, the balance will likely shift and you could be looking at 15 versus 5 in your favor.</p>
<p>The new experience thing has pretty much de-stagnated the whole bracket system.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I PvP every once and a while, actually. Did some 20s AB the other day, and met someone from a RPPVP server who actually seemed to so far like my server and has come join me. xDDD;;  I was playing my Troll Shammi. It felt good to win. Until the scary PvPers got up. ._.;

As for the whole, &quot;LOLRPSERVER&quot; thing, I always think that people will do that with me and my friends whenever we do BGs, mainly because we&#039;re not that great due to it being a Normal server, yet you get these great PvPers in Shadowburn (Greymane&#039;s BG) from ones like Kalecgos, and go, &quot;Man... OHWELL.&quot; xD  I have a bad habit of going into BGs at lower levels JUST to annoy the hard-core PvPers, and make them work for their game. :P

I&#039;ve actually found out, that Silver Hand is in the same BG as Aman&#039;Thul, the server I have my 80 Hunter on. :)

(As for Battlegrounds I actually like... I love defending in WSG now (Hated it back in the day when I loved AB, which I don&#039;t like as much now. o_O) AB is kind of meh, depending on my character. 80 Ele Shammi + Lumber Mill + Thunderstorm = Flying Hordies! :D AV is kind of meh for me too. If I don&#039;t get stuck up at the Alli base when it&#039;s under attack, I&#039;m good. xD; EotS... I hate it without some friends. I hate it. During Children&#039;s Week, I did it as Boomkin, and was pretty high in Honor, but 15-20 lost games before I could leave cause I got my achieve finally kind of bugged me. :[  SotA, I&#039;m also not fond of... Might be due to the fact I don&#039;t get it, or it might be because Alliance always starts first and I dislike getting Pewpew&#039;d by casters and whatnot sitting on that wall where I cannot hit them. (COWARDS!) The new BG however, IoC, I love. I find that fun, it might be because it combines ideas, or it might just be that when you actually have the airship, you get to jump off it very spy-like. Stealthing while falling just makes it even better. xD;  Just watch out for those, &quot;LOLRPSERVER&quot; people in IoC now. I went Docks once, because I knew Hangar would get overrun like always, and got someone say in the BG Chat, &quot;SOME1 WENT LOLDOCKS.&quot;  *shrug*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I PvP every once and a while, actually. Did some 20s AB the other day, and met someone from a RPPVP server who actually seemed to so far like my server and has come join me. xDDD;;  I was playing my Troll Shammi. It felt good to win. Until the scary PvPers got up. ._.;</p>
<p>As for the whole, &#8220;LOLRPSERVER&#8221; thing, I always think that people will do that with me and my friends whenever we do BGs, mainly because we&#8217;re not that great due to it being a Normal server, yet you get these great PvPers in Shadowburn (Greymane&#8217;s BG) from ones like Kalecgos, and go, &#8220;Man&#8230; OHWELL.&#8221; xD  I have a bad habit of going into BGs at lower levels JUST to annoy the hard-core PvPers, and make them work for their game. <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually found out, that Silver Hand is in the same BG as Aman&#8217;Thul, the server I have my 80 Hunter on. <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(As for Battlegrounds I actually like&#8230; I love defending in WSG now (Hated it back in the day when I loved AB, which I don&#8217;t like as much now. o_O) AB is kind of meh, depending on my character. 80 Ele Shammi + Lumber Mill + Thunderstorm = Flying Hordies! <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  AV is kind of meh for me too. If I don&#8217;t get stuck up at the Alli base when it&#8217;s under attack, I&#8217;m good. xD; EotS&#8230; I hate it without some friends. I hate it. During Children&#8217;s Week, I did it as Boomkin, and was pretty high in Honor, but 15-20 lost games before I could leave cause I got my achieve finally kind of bugged me. :[  SotA, I&#8217;m also not fond of&#8230; Might be due to the fact I don&#8217;t get it, or it might be because Alliance always starts first and I dislike getting Pewpew&#8217;d by casters and whatnot sitting on that wall where I cannot hit them. (COWARDS!) The new BG however, IoC, I love. I find that fun, it might be because it combines ideas, or it might just be that when you actually have the airship, you get to jump off it very spy-like. Stealthing while falling just makes it even better. xD;  Just watch out for those, &#8220;LOLRPSERVER&#8221; people in IoC now. I went Docks once, because I knew Hangar would get overrun like always, and got someone say in the BG Chat, &#8220;SOME1 WENT LOLDOCKS.&#8221;  *shrug*</p>
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		<title>By: Jaedia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never really been a big PvPer, I have my moments, sometimes I&#039;ll PvP my little heart out, and currently I&#039;m trying to make myself PvP purely for the tabards, but... I just find it too boring. And no.. WG is not different to a BG, except more laggy (guess they fixed that now?) Purely and simply don&#039;t hugely enjoy hunter PvP, isn&#039;t the same as working out how to PvP as a shadow priest, or melting faces with an unholy DK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never really been a big PvPer, I have my moments, sometimes I&#8217;ll PvP my little heart out, and currently I&#8217;m trying to make myself PvP purely for the tabards, but&#8230; I just find it too boring. And no.. WG is not different to a BG, except more laggy (guess they fixed that now?) Purely and simply don&#8217;t hugely enjoy hunter PvP, isn&#8217;t the same as working out how to PvP as a shadow priest, or melting faces with an unholy DK.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllixia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllixia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Bloodlust Alliance still sucks most of the time. They get better on battleground holiday weekends, but you&#039;re still pretty hard pressed to win WSG or (especially) AV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Bloodlust Alliance still sucks most of the time. They get better on battleground holiday weekends, but you&#8217;re still pretty hard pressed to win WSG or (especially) AV.</p>
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		<title>By: Kordwar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kordwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right, i leave the normal names alone. Names like &quot;DKxxnelf&quot; &quot;stabsu&quot; ect. I will drop from the sky to 2 shot that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right, i leave the normal names alone. Names like &#8220;DKxxnelf&#8221; &#8220;stabsu&#8221; ect. I will drop from the sky to 2 shot that.</p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alterac Valley is nothing like it used to be. It&#039;s just a means to an end now. The honor gains are fantastic, but the game play is a race to the finish line.

I miss the old days before x-realm when Ivus and Lokholar would actually get summoned now and again. It was also much more interesting when you were familiar with most of the opposing players. The tense rivalries were great.

I still enjoy WSG and AB, but AV is all but dead to me. SotA is interesting, but I&#039;m not a huge fan of the siege engine warfare. WG is like AV in that I&#039;m sort of indifferent to it. I just like the honor gains and badge rewards. :)

I&#039;ve only tried the new BG once so far, so I can&#039;t pass judgment on it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alterac Valley is nothing like it used to be. It&#8217;s just a means to an end now. The honor gains are fantastic, but the game play is a race to the finish line.</p>
<p>I miss the old days before x-realm when Ivus and Lokholar would actually get summoned now and again. It was also much more interesting when you were familiar with most of the opposing players. The tense rivalries were great.</p>
<p>I still enjoy WSG and AB, but AV is all but dead to me. SotA is interesting, but I&#8217;m not a huge fan of the siege engine warfare. WG is like AV in that I&#8217;m sort of indifferent to it. I just like the honor gains and badge rewards. <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only tried the new BG once so far, so I can&#8217;t pass judgment on it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh gosh, I had completely forgotten about the &quot;7, 8, 9&quot; levels when levelling. As someone who generally doesn&#039;t enjoy PVP, I used to love popping into Arathi Basin at the higher end of the level ranges. I had a love/hate relationship with AV (loved it in general, &lt;i&gt;hated&lt;/i&gt; it with a passion when trying to earn my Ice Barbed Spear and we were losing miserably as alliance). But yeah, the spark went out of it for me as well.

I guess when people first try battlegrounds they are  levelling and trying new things and having fun. Once you reach the level cap, PVP gets &quot;serious&quot;. Although there&#039;s twinks at lower levels, I guess when you&#039;re at level cap, effectively everyone is a twink. It&#039;s pretty intimidating to a casual PVPer.

It took me a long time to try Wintergrasp. I tried it once and found it rather fun, but I didn&#039;t find it so much more fun than other battlegrounds. It seems it&#039;s better balanced, but otherwise... *shrugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh gosh, I had completely forgotten about the &#8220;7, 8, 9&#8243; levels when levelling. As someone who generally doesn&#8217;t enjoy PVP, I used to love popping into Arathi Basin at the higher end of the level ranges. I had a love/hate relationship with AV (loved it in general, <i>hated</i> it with a passion when trying to earn my Ice Barbed Spear and we were losing miserably as alliance). But yeah, the spark went out of it for me as well.</p>
<p>I guess when people first try battlegrounds they are  levelling and trying new things and having fun. Once you reach the level cap, PVP gets &#8220;serious&#8221;. Although there&#8217;s twinks at lower levels, I guess when you&#8217;re at level cap, effectively everyone is a twink. It&#8217;s pretty intimidating to a casual PVPer.</p>
<p>It took me a long time to try Wintergrasp. I tried it once and found it rather fun, but I didn&#8217;t find it so much more fun than other battlegrounds. It seems it&#8217;s better balanced, but otherwise&#8230; *shrugs*</p>
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		<title>By: pangati</title>
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		<dc:creator>pangati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One reason for ganking, on an established PVP server, is that people assume every lowbie is an alt, and that if they gank them once or twice, they&#039;ll switch to their main and bring friends, and epic battle will ensue. Which is actually pretty reasonable, because it happens a lot.

With my guild tag, I get ganked a lot, because we&#039;re known for bringing it in world PVP. Sometimes it&#039;s someone who&#039;s a jerk, but a lot of times it&#039;s from one of the &quot;rival&quot; guilds on the Alliance side, and I know they&#039;re just looking for some PVP action.

Which is not to say that there aren&#039;t people who gank because they can act like jerks — I could list several on both sides from my server — but for the most part, people who gank are looking for a fight, not an easy kill. (Plus it&#039;s always hilarious when someone&#039;s on the roof in a lowbie town ganking, and you show up and they don&#039;t realize you&#039;re in the 70s or 80s until it&#039;s too late. WorldDefense channel, you make life so much more fun.)

P.S. I&#039;m pretty sure nothing anyone does in a video game makes them &quot;sub-human.&quot; :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason for ganking, on an established PVP server, is that people assume every lowbie is an alt, and that if they gank them once or twice, they&#8217;ll switch to their main and bring friends, and epic battle will ensue. Which is actually pretty reasonable, because it happens a lot.</p>
<p>With my guild tag, I get ganked a lot, because we&#8217;re known for bringing it in world PVP. Sometimes it&#8217;s someone who&#8217;s a jerk, but a lot of times it&#8217;s from one of the &#8220;rival&#8221; guilds on the Alliance side, and I know they&#8217;re just looking for some PVP action.</p>
<p>Which is not to say that there aren&#8217;t people who gank because they can act like jerks — I could list several on both sides from my server — but for the most part, people who gank are looking for a fight, not an easy kill. (Plus it&#8217;s always hilarious when someone&#8217;s on the roof in a lowbie town ganking, and you show up and they don&#8217;t realize you&#8217;re in the 70s or 80s until it&#8217;s too late. WorldDefense channel, you make life so much more fun.)</p>
<p>P.S. I&#8217;m pretty sure nothing anyone does in a video game makes them &#8220;sub-human.&#8221; :-/</p>
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