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	<title>Comments on: A Completely Different and Possibly Insane Angle of &quot;Welfare Epics&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Naima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally understand the sentimental value that some items have. I vendored, then bought back, Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix many times before I let it go for good, and not before taking many screenshots of myself holding it. Thanks for posting your character&#039;s Figureprint; I&#039;ve thought about getting my hunter Figureprinted but wondered about the quality of the product. I noticed the colours are not very vivid. Is it worth getting otherwise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand the sentimental value that some items have. I vendored, then bought back, Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix many times before I let it go for good, and not before taking many screenshots of myself holding it. Thanks for posting your character&#8217;s Figureprint; I&#8217;ve thought about getting my hunter Figureprinted but wondered about the quality of the product. I noticed the colours are not very vivid. Is it worth getting otherwise?</p>
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		<title>By: Cardolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cardolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a certain sentimental attachment to some items of gear. The Red Sword of Courage that I ran UP heroic numerous times to get, and which finally dropped on my birthday. My first, and only, world drop epic - Wapach&#039;s Spaulders of Solidarity. My Royal Crest of Lordaeron from heroic Culling of Stratholme.

And as other people have said, I think the overall aesthetic of your gear is important. I think a large part of the sentimental attachment I have to the items I listed is that they&#039;re gorgeous looking. I&#039;m also relieved to find that I&#039;m not the only one who is willing to pass on upgrades for looks.

As a Paladin (tank, though spec is irrelevant), I refused to get a large majority of the T7 gear because I thought it looked awful. On the other hand, I absolutely LOVE the way the T8 gear looks. I have 3 pieces of T8 (hands, shoulders, legs) and one piece of T8.5 (chest), though the chest is covered largely by my Explorer&#039;s tabard (which roughly matches the colour of the T8 gear).

I haven&#039;t had helms turned on for the year I&#039;ve been playing my Paladin. When I finally get the T8 head (lost the roll twice on Mimiron), I will turn displaying helms on. I could buy the T8.5 helm easily (I have a T8.5 helm for my offspec) but it doesn&#039;t match the rest of the set.

I also have to confess that when Wrath was first released I wanted to level a Warrior just to have two two-handed swords strapped to my back.

On the topic of &quot;welfare&quot; epics, I don&#039;t see them as a bad thing. My girlfriend hit 80 with her Priest about a week before 3.2 came out. Between the new 5 man and emblems, it took her about two weeks to gear up to a standard that it took me months of running Naxx and then Ulduar to reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a certain sentimental attachment to some items of gear. The Red Sword of Courage that I ran UP heroic numerous times to get, and which finally dropped on my birthday. My first, and only, world drop epic &#8211; Wapach&#8217;s Spaulders of Solidarity. My Royal Crest of Lordaeron from heroic Culling of Stratholme.</p>
<p>And as other people have said, I think the overall aesthetic of your gear is important. I think a large part of the sentimental attachment I have to the items I listed is that they&#8217;re gorgeous looking. I&#8217;m also relieved to find that I&#8217;m not the only one who is willing to pass on upgrades for looks.</p>
<p>As a Paladin (tank, though spec is irrelevant), I refused to get a large majority of the T7 gear because I thought it looked awful. On the other hand, I absolutely LOVE the way the T8 gear looks. I have 3 pieces of T8 (hands, shoulders, legs) and one piece of T8.5 (chest), though the chest is covered largely by my Explorer&#8217;s tabard (which roughly matches the colour of the T8 gear).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had helms turned on for the year I&#8217;ve been playing my Paladin. When I finally get the T8 head (lost the roll twice on Mimiron), I will turn displaying helms on. I could buy the T8.5 helm easily (I have a T8.5 helm for my offspec) but it doesn&#8217;t match the rest of the set.</p>
<p>I also have to confess that when Wrath was first released I wanted to level a Warrior just to have two two-handed swords strapped to my back.</p>
<p>On the topic of &#8220;welfare&#8221; epics, I don&#8217;t see them as a bad thing. My girlfriend hit 80 with her Priest about a week before 3.2 came out. Between the new 5 man and emblems, it took her about two weeks to gear up to a standard that it took me months of running Naxx and then Ulduar to reach.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspect of the Hare » Potentially Incoherent Rambles on Ulduar, Gear, Epics, etc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspect of the Hare » Potentially Incoherent Rambles on Ulduar, Gear, Epics, etc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, I wrote a piece on &#8220;the soullessness of badge epics&#8220;. A post I threw together in twenty minutes and tossed up before running out the door has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: reinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>reinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the same situation as most of you guys. I&#039;m a guild officer of a decent social guild on my realm. Social meaning we have tons of newbie players, offliners etc. I haven&#039;t been able to go an a 25 man with my guild ever. And i only managed to clear nax 10 in a guild run once. It took us 3 lockouts to even manage that. Since our main tank quit the game raiding is on an indefinate stop for now. Its safe to say i won&#039;t see ulduar inside with my guild.

But i am strongly opposed to giving out these welfare epics. Not because i want people to grind but for an other reason.

To be able to do nax 10 without others boosting your ass off you need a raid formed with people who have run a large amount of heroics. Its simply impossible to do in just dinged quest gear greens. ( that is if there aren&#039;t players around with a full nax 25 or higher gear set equiped ) The players that have aquired the apropriate gear have aquired something else while doing so. Namely experience. New 80&#039;s are not uncommon mostly players who have 0 experience. In leveling they hardly did any instances due to lack of players around. They are used to solo content and have no clue about what their character should be able to do. I&#039;ve experienced many times silly things like paladins not knowing they could cleanse. Mages that do not realise the result of a frostblock after they just started a pull. And tons of other annoying things you really don&#039;t want to have in your raid.

I&#039;m all against an elitist aproach to this but i feel they have it right in the way that noobs shouldn&#039;t have the best of gear. And by noobs i don&#039;t mean it condescending but rather in regards to knowledge of their character, and playing skills. Before we had these welfare epics you could be pretty sure that someone wearing a tier set had at least some raid experience. He&#039;d know what was going on in a 10 or 25 man. Had some grasp of the requirement to follow a boss strategy. And is somewhat able to execute those strategy / tactics. Granted the ones that got boosted through won&#039;t know much, but at least they had to go through some of the things.

With the current welfare epics the only good thing around is that at least now all the players wearing those have 5 man experience, something that was even in nax lacking in a minority of players. I&#039;m without doubt that we will still see a ton of players with no other instance experience besides the entry ones though since they offer the most badges in the shortest time.

Another downside to the new system is that it is in complete contradiction to the stated goal of the developers. They insist they want everyone to see all content. Giving out gear levels so new players can pretty much get to the lateste end content while running heroics does not at all make players see everything. I&#039;m pretty sure that most players that are now just dinging 80 will never bother to see naxxramas or malygos inside. The gear they are able to get from badges outstrips the gear dropping there by far. Its easier to obtain aswell. In dropping these epics the developers are making everyone that can catch up in time see all the stuff they have just made. All the previous stuff is simply skipped. If their goal was &quot;we want all players to experience how cool the very latest endgame is&quot; they might achieve that. If it is as they state to have all players see all content they&#039;re missing the mark by a mile. Players will simply skip going to sarth or at least skip out the hardmodes there. They will not run naxxramas since it is simply to harder to form a 10 man from a pug, and the gear dropping there is outstripped by the badge stuff they can get from heroics. After cataclysm hits nax, sarth, maly and maybe even ulduar will be dead. I&#039;m pretty sure the trial instances will stick around since they are ultra fast raids. But all in all players will definately not see all the content. Just ask yourself, how many of you guys went to the lvl 60 raids? You were able to just as the new players are able to go to nax. But as soon as the lvl cap is raised the easier instances will be dead. And even in the comming year with the badge gear they will be insanely easy. I&#039;m sure that is fun for a majority that after all is more interested in free epix then in performing well. But to a &quot;i hope&quot; large part of the player base its not that much fun. It is to be honest the reason that even though badge gear means upgrades for me, i&#039;m not grinding heroics. They already are to easy and boring. Getting the badge gear will make naxx 25 boring aswell. It will ruin my experience of sarth 3d that i still pray my guild will get to sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the same situation as most of you guys. I&#8217;m a guild officer of a decent social guild on my realm. Social meaning we have tons of newbie players, offliners etc. I haven&#8217;t been able to go an a 25 man with my guild ever. And i only managed to clear nax 10 in a guild run once. It took us 3 lockouts to even manage that. Since our main tank quit the game raiding is on an indefinate stop for now. Its safe to say i won&#8217;t see ulduar inside with my guild.</p>
<p>But i am strongly opposed to giving out these welfare epics. Not because i want people to grind but for an other reason.</p>
<p>To be able to do nax 10 without others boosting your ass off you need a raid formed with people who have run a large amount of heroics. Its simply impossible to do in just dinged quest gear greens. ( that is if there aren&#8217;t players around with a full nax 25 or higher gear set equiped ) The players that have aquired the apropriate gear have aquired something else while doing so. Namely experience. New 80&#8242;s are not uncommon mostly players who have 0 experience. In leveling they hardly did any instances due to lack of players around. They are used to solo content and have no clue about what their character should be able to do. I&#8217;ve experienced many times silly things like paladins not knowing they could cleanse. Mages that do not realise the result of a frostblock after they just started a pull. And tons of other annoying things you really don&#8217;t want to have in your raid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all against an elitist aproach to this but i feel they have it right in the way that noobs shouldn&#8217;t have the best of gear. And by noobs i don&#8217;t mean it condescending but rather in regards to knowledge of their character, and playing skills. Before we had these welfare epics you could be pretty sure that someone wearing a tier set had at least some raid experience. He&#8217;d know what was going on in a 10 or 25 man. Had some grasp of the requirement to follow a boss strategy. And is somewhat able to execute those strategy / tactics. Granted the ones that got boosted through won&#8217;t know much, but at least they had to go through some of the things.</p>
<p>With the current welfare epics the only good thing around is that at least now all the players wearing those have 5 man experience, something that was even in nax lacking in a minority of players. I&#8217;m without doubt that we will still see a ton of players with no other instance experience besides the entry ones though since they offer the most badges in the shortest time.</p>
<p>Another downside to the new system is that it is in complete contradiction to the stated goal of the developers. They insist they want everyone to see all content. Giving out gear levels so new players can pretty much get to the lateste end content while running heroics does not at all make players see everything. I&#8217;m pretty sure that most players that are now just dinging 80 will never bother to see naxxramas or malygos inside. The gear they are able to get from badges outstrips the gear dropping there by far. Its easier to obtain aswell. In dropping these epics the developers are making everyone that can catch up in time see all the stuff they have just made. All the previous stuff is simply skipped. If their goal was &#8220;we want all players to experience how cool the very latest endgame is&#8221; they might achieve that. If it is as they state to have all players see all content they&#8217;re missing the mark by a mile. Players will simply skip going to sarth or at least skip out the hardmodes there. They will not run naxxramas since it is simply to harder to form a 10 man from a pug, and the gear dropping there is outstripped by the badge stuff they can get from heroics. After cataclysm hits nax, sarth, maly and maybe even ulduar will be dead. I&#8217;m pretty sure the trial instances will stick around since they are ultra fast raids. But all in all players will definately not see all the content. Just ask yourself, how many of you guys went to the lvl 60 raids? You were able to just as the new players are able to go to nax. But as soon as the lvl cap is raised the easier instances will be dead. And even in the comming year with the badge gear they will be insanely easy. I&#8217;m sure that is fun for a majority that after all is more interested in free epix then in performing well. But to a &#8220;i hope&#8221; large part of the player base its not that much fun. It is to be honest the reason that even though badge gear means upgrades for me, i&#8217;m not grinding heroics. They already are to easy and boring. Getting the badge gear will make naxx 25 boring aswell. It will ruin my experience of sarth 3d that i still pray my guild will get to sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you feel that strongly why not try to accumulate H ToC items first?

I&#039;ve recently found myself in between a rock and a hard place ( or real life and Guild raids) and I haven&#039;t had the time to even blink at a Uld25 run invite -  let alone worry about gearing up in uld drops.

However I found there is some nice huntery yummies that drop in H ToC and even though they&#039;re not T9 they&#039;re a decent bridge between naxx and 25uld and the best thing is it only takes 15mins to run!

Only a limited number of  items drop in H ToC so when you get something huntery it feels really good, you still get emblems but still you don&#039;t need to feel like a emblem grind slave to have so new shinnies.

Mix them with some emblem/drop items and you&#039;ll feel a bit better :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you feel that strongly why not try to accumulate H ToC items first?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently found myself in between a rock and a hard place ( or real life and Guild raids) and I haven&#8217;t had the time to even blink at a Uld25 run invite &#8211;  let alone worry about gearing up in uld drops.</p>
<p>However I found there is some nice huntery yummies that drop in H ToC and even though they&#8217;re not T9 they&#8217;re a decent bridge between naxx and 25uld and the best thing is it only takes 15mins to run!</p>
<p>Only a limited number of  items drop in H ToC so when you get something huntery it feels really good, you still get emblems but still you don&#8217;t need to feel like a emblem grind slave to have so new shinnies.</p>
<p>Mix them with some emblem/drop items and you&#8217;ll feel a bit better <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nefernet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nefernet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally aggre with you Pike. I&#039;m very attached to items I got in raids, especially those from very hard bosses. I got my last piece of T8.25 this Tuesday, the shoulders. There are very few people having those on my server because it&#039;s a small server and only 4 guilds kill Yogg25. I even could be the only hunter having them. It&#039;s the first set I ever complete. I only bought 1 piece of it, the helm, the day I looted my first piece, for the 2pc set bonus. I&#039;m very proud of it and will keep it in my bank as long as I have enough room...

There are a couple of epics I keep in my bank, mostly ranged weapons. My first epic bow, the very bizarre one dropping from the last boss of the slave pen if I&#039;m not mistaken, with living fishes on it... I kept my Nesingwary, because it was a gift from a guildie. I kept my KT10&#039;s gun, it took me so much time to loot it. I kept every epic ranged weapon I looted. I tend to do the same with my 2H weapons too... Terrok&#039;s Quill, Arcanite reaper (that one is carried in my bags at all times...), the staff from Cyanigosa...

It don&#039;t buy a lot of items with badges, because I do many raids and can find equivalents or even better there. The only piece of gear I bought with emblems and I quite love is my Mirror Truth. I like the name and it was my first epic trinket. The others, I don&#039;t care... They are just pixels.

The main difference between looted pieces and badges pieces is there : bagdes pieces needed time and 4 other people playing averagely, looted pieces needed time, sweat, efforts, teamplay, gameplay and luck... That&#039;s why people were so upset when they enabled any normal T9 pieces to be gained by badges you can have by doing the daily heroic dungeon quest.
Personnaly, I don&#039;t care, because for me, gear is not the reward for the efforts I put in raids (achievments do that more). I like it because it says to myself &quot;you see you can do it !&quot;, but it&#039;s more a tool to go further for me.
And anyway, raiders will have them much earlier : The raid drops loads of triumph badges... In 25-man yesterday, I recieved 9. And hardmodes will be the only way to get upgrades and thats fair. It&#039;s fair because people who cannot raid very often like you will be able to stay nearly at the same gear level than their guildies raiding more often.

But back to the subject : yes I love my hard earned gear pieces and will hate to replace them with badges... Special soft point for ranged and 2H weapons... You&#039;re not crazy Pike !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally aggre with you Pike. I&#8217;m very attached to items I got in raids, especially those from very hard bosses. I got my last piece of T8.25 this Tuesday, the shoulders. There are very few people having those on my server because it&#8217;s a small server and only 4 guilds kill Yogg25. I even could be the only hunter having them. It&#8217;s the first set I ever complete. I only bought 1 piece of it, the helm, the day I looted my first piece, for the 2pc set bonus. I&#8217;m very proud of it and will keep it in my bank as long as I have enough room&#8230;</p>
<p>There are a couple of epics I keep in my bank, mostly ranged weapons. My first epic bow, the very bizarre one dropping from the last boss of the slave pen if I&#8217;m not mistaken, with living fishes on it&#8230; I kept my Nesingwary, because it was a gift from a guildie. I kept my KT10&#8242;s gun, it took me so much time to loot it. I kept every epic ranged weapon I looted. I tend to do the same with my 2H weapons too&#8230; Terrok&#8217;s Quill, Arcanite reaper (that one is carried in my bags at all times&#8230;), the staff from Cyanigosa&#8230;</p>
<p>It don&#8217;t buy a lot of items with badges, because I do many raids and can find equivalents or even better there. The only piece of gear I bought with emblems and I quite love is my Mirror Truth. I like the name and it was my first epic trinket. The others, I don&#8217;t care&#8230; They are just pixels.</p>
<p>The main difference between looted pieces and badges pieces is there : bagdes pieces needed time and 4 other people playing averagely, looted pieces needed time, sweat, efforts, teamplay, gameplay and luck&#8230; That&#8217;s why people were so upset when they enabled any normal T9 pieces to be gained by badges you can have by doing the daily heroic dungeon quest.<br />
Personnaly, I don&#8217;t care, because for me, gear is not the reward for the efforts I put in raids (achievments do that more). I like it because it says to myself &#8220;you see you can do it !&#8221;, but it&#8217;s more a tool to go further for me.<br />
And anyway, raiders will have them much earlier : The raid drops loads of triumph badges&#8230; In 25-man yesterday, I recieved 9. And hardmodes will be the only way to get upgrades and thats fair. It&#8217;s fair because people who cannot raid very often like you will be able to stay nearly at the same gear level than their guildies raiding more often.</p>
<p>But back to the subject : yes I love my hard earned gear pieces and will hate to replace them with badges&#8230; Special soft point for ranged and 2H weapons&#8230; You&#8217;re not crazy Pike !</p>
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		<title>By: Garwulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your post 100 percent. Although it&#039;s nice that epics can be obtained just via time and patience, it does diminish the wow factor of looting a nice epic off of a difficult raid boss.

On a side note... I&#039;m glad your experience with Figure Prints was better than mine.

http://huntsmanslodge.com/135/garwulf-down-send-help.htm

I always wanted that gun too and never got it. That was the thee ranged weapon to have for BM until that damn x-bow was introduced.

I bet it&#039;s still in your bank. ;) I know I still have all of my rank 10 PvP pieces from back when we still had the ladder system. No way I&#039;m ever deleting that stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your post 100 percent. Although it&#8217;s nice that epics can be obtained just via time and patience, it does diminish the wow factor of looting a nice epic off of a difficult raid boss.</p>
<p>On a side note&#8230; I&#8217;m glad your experience with Figure Prints was better than mine.</p>
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<p>I always wanted that gun too and never got it. That was the thee ranged weapon to have for BM until that damn x-bow was introduced.</p>
<p>I bet it&#8217;s still in your bank. <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I know I still have all of my rank 10 PvP pieces from back when we still had the ladder system. No way I&#8217;m ever deleting that stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Karhazn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karhazn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know where you&#039;re coming from with the whole not wanting to upgrade your hard earned gear with the badge gear, in fact I&#039;ve been quite resistant to actually upgrading my gear with the new stuff because I worked for it (I&#039;ll be damned if I have to replace my ulduar 10 gear with badge gear!).

Also don&#039;t worry about not being in the high end gear for ulduar 25, it helps but really isn&#039;t necessary. Besides don&#039;t worry about embarrassing yourself infront of the rose, we&#039;re cool about stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where you&#8217;re coming from with the whole not wanting to upgrade your hard earned gear with the badge gear, in fact I&#8217;ve been quite resistant to actually upgrading my gear with the new stuff because I worked for it (I&#8217;ll be damned if I have to replace my ulduar 10 gear with badge gear!).</p>
<p>Also don&#8217;t worry about not being in the high end gear for ulduar 25, it helps but really isn&#8217;t necessary. Besides don&#8217;t worry about embarrassing yourself infront of the rose, we&#8217;re cool about stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.aspectofthehare.net/2009/08/a-completely-different-and-possibly-insane-angle-of-welfare-epics.html/comment-page-1#comment-8237</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the last few months my hunter has been suffering from level 80 burnout.  Whether it&#039;s from doing the same instances over and over again, maybe from my gear being better than the runs my guild has scheduled thus not seeing a reason to even roll on anything, but mostly from the feeling that with the badge gear it really doesn&#039;t matter anymore.  I see the benefit of the emblem gear and letting everyone get nice stuff so they can see the raids they wouldn&#039;t have before, but I agree with Pike, there is a difference between my &quot;blue&quot; cloak that dropped in H.VH and the one I bought with 40 EoH.  Even farming the mats for my profession made gear felt more like earning something.  Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few months my hunter has been suffering from level 80 burnout.  Whether it&#8217;s from doing the same instances over and over again, maybe from my gear being better than the runs my guild has scheduled thus not seeing a reason to even roll on anything, but mostly from the feeling that with the badge gear it really doesn&#8217;t matter anymore.  I see the benefit of the emblem gear and letting everyone get nice stuff so they can see the raids they wouldn&#8217;t have before, but I agree with Pike, there is a difference between my &#8220;blue&#8221; cloak that dropped in H.VH and the one I bought with 40 EoH.  Even farming the mats for my profession made gear felt more like earning something.  Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</title>
		<link>http://www.aspectofthehare.net/2009/08/a-completely-different-and-possibly-insane-angle-of-welfare-epics.html/comment-page-1#comment-8233</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah its got less lore. Yes the items feel soulless. But it is needed if blizz wants more people to see icecrown.

If you wanted to see BJ/TK/Hyjal in BC, you had to grind heroics/kara for badges &amp; T4, then kara, then gruuls/mags for T5 before you had the chance to survive in the end game raids.

This way there is reduced need to grind naxx &gt; ulduar &gt; ToC before setting foot in icecrown.

My main is a Tankadin.
And as a pally tank, 90% of my gear is still from raid drops anyways.
Ive spent the majority of my badges on my Ret offset, or heirloom pieces for my hunter(s) or warlock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah its got less lore. Yes the items feel soulless. But it is needed if blizz wants more people to see icecrown.</p>
<p>If you wanted to see BJ/TK/Hyjal in BC, you had to grind heroics/kara for badges &amp; T4, then kara, then gruuls/mags for T5 before you had the chance to survive in the end game raids.</p>
<p>This way there is reduced need to grind naxx &gt; ulduar &gt; ToC before setting foot in icecrown.</p>
<p>My main is a Tankadin.<br />
And as a pally tank, 90% of my gear is still from raid drops anyways.<br />
Ive spent the majority of my badges on my Ret offset, or heirloom pieces for my hunter(s) or warlock.</p>
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