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	<title>Comments on: The Amazing Races! (Semi-RPishness inside)</title>
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		<title>By: Feralan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feralan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matojo: &quot;If I don’t like how a character looks, I can’t play it, [...]&quot;

Oh boy, yes. Agreed, this locks me out of certain types of charactrs too even if it was interested in their lore. Gnomes are one example -- they look like toddlers with boobs or beards to me. Forsaken are another. I love their rotten, ugly faces, but the way gear looks on them puts me off.

Luckily for me, I usually like both the way a race looks (at least the females; I don&#039;t play males) and its lore. Or dislike both, as the case may be. :p The exception are female night elves. Love their lore, HATE their animations and many of their babyfaces. If it was up to me they&#039;d be animated more like orc women, who are kickass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matojo: &#8220;If I don’t like how a character looks, I can’t play it, [...]&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh boy, yes. Agreed, this locks me out of certain types of charactrs too even if it was interested in their lore. Gnomes are one example &#8212; they look like toddlers with boobs or beards to me. Forsaken are another. I love their rotten, ugly faces, but the way gear looks on them puts me off.</p>
<p>Luckily for me, I usually like both the way a race looks (at least the females; I don&#8217;t play males) and its lore. Or dislike both, as the case may be. :p The exception are female night elves. Love their lore, HATE their animations and many of their babyfaces. If it was up to me they&#8217;d be animated more like orc women, who are kickass.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first toon was a male Dwarf hunter named Venatas and though I am on a PvE server I played him just like a Dwarf Hunter, seldom in town (except for rested XP) often prefering the corner in the entry way than a bed upstairs. He swam/corpse crawled to Darnasus from Darkshore because the flightmaster wouldn&#039;t fly him there and he was too shy/anti-scoial to talk to anyone and find out there was a boat. He always trys soloing group quests rather than ask anyone. In a raid he is quiet, listens to directions and does what he&#039;s told. He is a skinner/miner not because it&#039;s profitable but who could be a hunter without being a skinner or a dwarf without being a miner. Besides he is somewhat compulsive and hates waste. He hit 450 skinning in Borean Tundera before he hit 71 just skinning all the game that others left littered around. His only companion is Petard, not the most cunning ghostsaber, but faithful too a fault. Petard was named Cat from level 17 clear until level 70 because once you named your pet you couldn&#039;t change it. His pet earned his name in LBRS when they were soloing it to get the key and grind rep with the Thorium Brothhood because Venatas had dark iron scraps in the bank and didn&#039;t want to waste them. He sent Petard after the mob right in front of them but Petard got confused and thought he meant one of the half dozen mobs, that neither of them could see, in the room at the end of the hallway. (how tab targeting works this way I have yet to understand) Before he couild be called back he&#039;d aggroed more opportunity than either of them could handle. Petard was originally meant to be a play on Huntard but a friend pointed out it is actually a real word that is amazing appropriate. Petard has hoisted Venatas more times than either of them care to remember.

After watching all the fun I was having, my wife wanted to play to and so I got her an RAF account and she rolled a Gnome mage named Gnorma. It didn&#039;t make sense that she and Venataas would ever get together and besides I had triple XP so I rolled a Gnome warlock named Gnolan. I originally choose warlock because it seemed so much like a hunter. Luckily Gnolan and Gnorma were able to enlist Venatas&#039; help to speed the killing spree necessary to get to 60 before the triple XP expired. It was a very pragmatic agreement. Gnorma was leveling herbalism and alchemy so Venatas would eventually have a ready source of flasks for raiding. Gnolan was inscription/enchanting so he&#039;d be able to convert all the useless greens he kept finding into something more useful. When they reached 60, Gnolan was still wearing his level 1 robe and hadn&#039;t spent a single talent point. He went to Stormwind, bought a full set of greens, specced Destro (essentially SV) and began learning the ropes. I&#039;ve since grown to appreciate the differences between hunters and warlocks. With no feign death, Gnolan has to be far more calculated and subtle than Venatas ever needed to be.

Both Gnolan and Gnorma are obseessively helpful. Gnorma never fails to summon mage tables, buff arcane brilliance and hand out mana pots like candy. Aside from the multiple summon stones, soul wells and soul stones, Gnolan has even been known to keep unending breath and detect invisibility up on the whole raid just because he can.

Like you I would love to have a Gnome hunter but my warlock is a great alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first toon was a male Dwarf hunter named Venatas and though I am on a PvE server I played him just like a Dwarf Hunter, seldom in town (except for rested XP) often prefering the corner in the entry way than a bed upstairs. He swam/corpse crawled to Darnasus from Darkshore because the flightmaster wouldn&#8217;t fly him there and he was too shy/anti-scoial to talk to anyone and find out there was a boat. He always trys soloing group quests rather than ask anyone. In a raid he is quiet, listens to directions and does what he&#8217;s told. He is a skinner/miner not because it&#8217;s profitable but who could be a hunter without being a skinner or a dwarf without being a miner. Besides he is somewhat compulsive and hates waste. He hit 450 skinning in Borean Tundera before he hit 71 just skinning all the game that others left littered around. His only companion is Petard, not the most cunning ghostsaber, but faithful too a fault. Petard was named Cat from level 17 clear until level 70 because once you named your pet you couldn&#8217;t change it. His pet earned his name in LBRS when they were soloing it to get the key and grind rep with the Thorium Brothhood because Venatas had dark iron scraps in the bank and didn&#8217;t want to waste them. He sent Petard after the mob right in front of them but Petard got confused and thought he meant one of the half dozen mobs, that neither of them could see, in the room at the end of the hallway. (how tab targeting works this way I have yet to understand) Before he couild be called back he&#8217;d aggroed more opportunity than either of them could handle. Petard was originally meant to be a play on Huntard but a friend pointed out it is actually a real word that is amazing appropriate. Petard has hoisted Venatas more times than either of them care to remember.</p>
<p>After watching all the fun I was having, my wife wanted to play to and so I got her an RAF account and she rolled a Gnome mage named Gnorma. It didn&#8217;t make sense that she and Venataas would ever get together and besides I had triple XP so I rolled a Gnome warlock named Gnolan. I originally choose warlock because it seemed so much like a hunter. Luckily Gnolan and Gnorma were able to enlist Venatas&#8217; help to speed the killing spree necessary to get to 60 before the triple XP expired. It was a very pragmatic agreement. Gnorma was leveling herbalism and alchemy so Venatas would eventually have a ready source of flasks for raiding. Gnolan was inscription/enchanting so he&#8217;d be able to convert all the useless greens he kept finding into something more useful. When they reached 60, Gnolan was still wearing his level 1 robe and hadn&#8217;t spent a single talent point. He went to Stormwind, bought a full set of greens, specced Destro (essentially SV) and began learning the ropes. I&#8217;ve since grown to appreciate the differences between hunters and warlocks. With no feign death, Gnolan has to be far more calculated and subtle than Venatas ever needed to be.</p>
<p>Both Gnolan and Gnorma are obseessively helpful. Gnorma never fails to summon mage tables, buff arcane brilliance and hand out mana pots like candy. Aside from the multiple summon stones, soul wells and soul stones, Gnolan has even been known to keep unending breath and detect invisibility up on the whole raid just because he can.</p>
<p>Like you I would love to have a Gnome hunter but my warlock is a great alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Matojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tchann knows this very well: I am my server&#039;s Troll Queen. Whenever a new Troll shows up in my guild OOC channel or the RP community&#039;s channel there&#039;s the assumption that it&#039;s me - or I tell them to guess and they&#039;re always like, &quot;Hi Mat.&quot;

90% of my good character ideas are Troll males. The other 10% flit between female Trolls, Tauren and female Blood Elves. My Blood Elf Warlock is an overly curious &quot;What does this do? How does it work?&quot; type who is ... dating a Troll. Elf dudes are nuts, she gave up on them a long time ago and the way the relationship developed was neat (I adore Troll/Elf pairings because of the potential conflicts). My duo Belfadins are sisters - one&#039;s a scientist with delusions of grandeur/issues stemming from her boyfriend&#039;s Death by Amani (and yet she&#039;s managed to catch and experiment on one) while the other&#039;s the lazy tomboy.

My Trolls? Well, I could go on and on. Let&#039;s just say they range the gambit from grumpy old soldier/father to shy young man that&#039;s in a struggle with his sexuality to recovering drug addict sneaky-type to cocky markswoman. It&#039;s a mixed bag (and the in-character journals are &lt;em&gt;fun&lt;/em&gt;).

If I don&#039;t like how a character looks, I can&#039;t play it, so I have a hard time with most male Humans, male Draenei, male Night Elves, male Gnomes, male Dwarves, Forsaken and male Orcs. Tauren of both genders are so fuzzy and adorable I wish I had more of &#039;em. I also admit to liking Night Elves but I have a hard time figuring out decent character ideas for &#039;em (not like my like/hatehatehate relationship with Orcs - this is aaall like).

I really should be making a post in my blog, shouldn&#039;t I? &gt;.&gt;

TL;DR Roll a troll, you knoooooooow you wanna. ... And get on convincing Blizz that Gnomes need moar class options. Tauren, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tchann knows this very well: I am my server&#8217;s Troll Queen. Whenever a new Troll shows up in my guild OOC channel or the RP community&#8217;s channel there&#8217;s the assumption that it&#8217;s me &#8211; or I tell them to guess and they&#8217;re always like, &#8220;Hi Mat.&#8221;</p>
<p>90% of my good character ideas are Troll males. The other 10% flit between female Trolls, Tauren and female Blood Elves. My Blood Elf Warlock is an overly curious &#8220;What does this do? How does it work?&#8221; type who is &#8230; dating a Troll. Elf dudes are nuts, she gave up on them a long time ago and the way the relationship developed was neat (I adore Troll/Elf pairings because of the potential conflicts). My duo Belfadins are sisters &#8211; one&#8217;s a scientist with delusions of grandeur/issues stemming from her boyfriend&#8217;s Death by Amani (and yet she&#8217;s managed to catch and experiment on one) while the other&#8217;s the lazy tomboy.</p>
<p>My Trolls? Well, I could go on and on. Let&#8217;s just say they range the gambit from grumpy old soldier/father to shy young man that&#8217;s in a struggle with his sexuality to recovering drug addict sneaky-type to cocky markswoman. It&#8217;s a mixed bag (and the in-character journals are <em>fun</em>).</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t like how a character looks, I can&#8217;t play it, so I have a hard time with most male Humans, male Draenei, male Night Elves, male Gnomes, male Dwarves, Forsaken and male Orcs. Tauren of both genders are so fuzzy and adorable I wish I had more of &#8216;em. I also admit to liking Night Elves but I have a hard time figuring out decent character ideas for &#8216;em (not like my like/hatehatehate relationship with Orcs &#8211; this is aaall like).</p>
<p>I really should be making a post in my blog, shouldn&#8217;t I? &gt;.&gt;</p>
<p>TL;DR Roll a troll, you knoooooooow you wanna. &#8230; And get on convincing Blizz that Gnomes need moar class options. Tauren, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralowae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralowae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can sum up my feelings on the wow races in one sentence:
I moo at friends IRL.

Ralowae and BlackTooth, Zangarmarsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can sum up my feelings on the wow races in one sentence:<br />
I moo at friends IRL.</p>
<p>Ralowae and BlackTooth, Zangarmarsh</p>
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		<title>By: Ninjaoctopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ninjaoctopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, I really enjoyed reading it.

I haven&#039;t indulged in RP properly yet on WOW. I tried it once briefly but found that no one else seemed to really RP efficiently so I got rid of that lvl 10 char.

In terms of races however, I know how I&#039;d probably order them.

For Horde, it&#039;s Tauren, Orc, Undead, Troll, Belf
For Ally, it&#039;s Gnome, Dwarf, Draenei, Nelf, Human

Overall order would just be putting the Horde races in between the gaps of the Ally races with Tauren before Gnome and so on...

Hopefully, I can find somewhere to enjoy RP at some point possibly on WOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, I really enjoyed reading it.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t indulged in RP properly yet on WOW. I tried it once briefly but found that no one else seemed to really RP efficiently so I got rid of that lvl 10 char.</p>
<p>In terms of races however, I know how I&#8217;d probably order them.</p>
<p>For Horde, it&#8217;s Tauren, Orc, Undead, Troll, Belf<br />
For Ally, it&#8217;s Gnome, Dwarf, Draenei, Nelf, Human</p>
<p>Overall order would just be putting the Horde races in between the gaps of the Ally races with Tauren before Gnome and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>Hopefully, I can find somewhere to enjoy RP at some point possibly on WOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Feralan - that&#039;s one of the reasons why I typically only RP in my head and not with others. =P  I figure a lot of my RP elements will bug other people. XD

For me anyway, I am this huge sucker for taking a character and making them prefer another race or people.  Not enough that they entirely lose the elements of their original race, though, which puts them in a sort of odd half-and-half position.  I do that with a lot (though certainly not all) of my characters.  I&#039;m always afraid people will find it cliche, though.  So I sort of dislike roleplaying that part out in game.  But I figured, it makes me happy, so what the heck, I&#039;ll think it in my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Feralan &#8211; that&#8217;s one of the reasons why I typically only RP in my head and not with others. =P  I figure a lot of my RP elements will bug other people. XD</p>
<p>For me anyway, I am this huge sucker for taking a character and making them prefer another race or people.  Not enough that they entirely lose the elements of their original race, though, which puts them in a sort of odd half-and-half position.  I do that with a lot (though certainly not all) of my characters.  I&#8217;m always afraid people will find it cliche, though.  So I sort of dislike roleplaying that part out in game.  But I figured, it makes me happy, so what the heck, I&#8217;ll think it in my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Feralan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feralan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. It seems many people here &quot;play against type&quot; which I suppose means not using the basic characteristics of the character&#039;s race (and maybe class). How come? Personally, when I pick a race/class I pick it at least partly because its traits fascinate me; I don&#039;t find them stifling. For me, the fun in RP is making a character who has her own quirks and problems, but it also very recognizably of her race/class. I&#039;m very much a fan of &quot;themed&quot; RP, too. And actually, so many people want to be &quot;special&quot; or &quot;rebellious&quot; or &quot;different&quot; that finding a paladin who actually knows the Three Virtues of the Holy Light, or a night elf who doesn&#039;t live in Stormwind and likes warlocks and death knights more than her own people, can be quite hard.

Or am I not understanding this right?

Oh, and a wave and hug for Hulan. She plays lovely dwarves! :)

(Night elves aside, I also like dwarves and draenei and especially tauren. Tauren are flat out awesome, though their size sure can make them feel slow and awkward when I just logged over from a smaller race.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. It seems many people here &#8220;play against type&#8221; which I suppose means not using the basic characteristics of the character&#8217;s race (and maybe class). How come? Personally, when I pick a race/class I pick it at least partly because its traits fascinate me; I don&#8217;t find them stifling. For me, the fun in RP is making a character who has her own quirks and problems, but it also very recognizably of her race/class. I&#8217;m very much a fan of &#8220;themed&#8221; RP, too. And actually, so many people want to be &#8220;special&#8221; or &#8220;rebellious&#8221; or &#8220;different&#8221; that finding a paladin who actually knows the Three Virtues of the Holy Light, or a night elf who doesn&#8217;t live in Stormwind and likes warlocks and death knights more than her own people, can be quite hard.</p>
<p>Or am I not understanding this right?</p>
<p>Oh, and a wave and hug for Hulan. She plays lovely dwarves! <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Night elves aside, I also like dwarves and draenei and especially tauren. Tauren are flat out awesome, though their size sure can make them feel slow and awkward when I just logged over from a smaller race.)</p>
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		<title>By: Watermist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watermist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, Starcraft truly is wonderful. I agree, it outshines Warcraft 3 in terms of awesomeness, but I&#039;m a major lorenerd (also, don&#039;t forgot the fact that I grew up watching Dad play Warcraft and Warcraft 2), so I highly enjoyed Warcraft 3 if only for the lore. ^^

(Ahh, so it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; the voice! Thanks for clarifying that. As for the quest givers, like I said, there&#039;s racists and less-than-cool people everywhere in WoW... the NPCs, that is. ;D)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, Starcraft truly is wonderful. I agree, it outshines Warcraft 3 in terms of awesomeness, but I&#8217;m a major lorenerd (also, don&#8217;t forgot the fact that I grew up watching Dad play Warcraft and Warcraft 2), so I highly enjoyed Warcraft 3 if only for the lore. ^^</p>
<p>(Ahh, so it <i>was</i> the voice! Thanks for clarifying that. As for the quest givers, like I said, there&#8217;s racists and less-than-cool people everywhere in WoW&#8230; the NPCs, that is. ;D)</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, okay. Thanks for fixing them!</description>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No links at all, just some scrambled eggs. :(

Just talking about how I prefer playing the boring races like Orcs and Humans because I can&#039;t be lazy and fall back on stereotypes the way I tend to do with Night Elves and Gnomes. All of them tend to be fairly normal for their races (given a broad definition of normal) but have little quirks and interesting histories that make them unique and fun. Like how my human warrior pretty much ignores faction boundaries because she considers herself a warrior first and a human second, and how my shaman is from the Dragonmaw clan which makes all those quests in Northrend with the red dragons hilariously awkward for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No links at all, just some scrambled eggs. <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just talking about how I prefer playing the boring races like Orcs and Humans because I can&#8217;t be lazy and fall back on stereotypes the way I tend to do with Night Elves and Gnomes. All of them tend to be fairly normal for their races (given a broad definition of normal) but have little quirks and interesting histories that make them unique and fun. Like how my human warrior pretty much ignores faction boundaries because she considers herself a warrior first and a human second, and how my shaman is from the Dragonmaw clan which makes all those quests in Northrend with the red dragons hilariously awkward for her.</p>
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