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		<title>By: Ridia, the Super Noob &#171; Violaceous Mana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ridia, the Super Noob &#171; Violaceous Mana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nostalgia back this week, namely over at Ego where Vonya mentioned her moment of revelation and at Aspect of the Hare with Pike&#8217;s memory of being young. It got me thinking - how and why in the world did I end up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nostalgia back this week, namely over at Ego where Vonya mentioned her moment of revelation and at Aspect of the Hare with Pike&#8217;s memory of being young. It got me thinking &#8211; how and why in the world did I end up [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomeaggedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnomeaggedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily enough, I think I am going to be a mid-WoLK baby.

I am expecting that when 3.1 hits, many of the things people have been doing to date will lapse....

Just in time for me to hit 80, be wandering around looking for a group, and having people say &quot;Back when we were running Nexus...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funnily enough, I think I am going to be a mid-WoLK baby.</p>
<p>I am expecting that when 3.1 hits, many of the things people have been doing to date will lapse&#8230;.</p>
<p>Just in time for me to hit 80, be wandering around looking for a group, and having people say &#8220;Back when we were running Nexus&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Frustrations of the Old Guard &#187; Stabilized Effort Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frustrations of the Old Guard &#187; Stabilized Effort Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] touched on this a bit, but I think as a original Closed Beta and vanilla raider, I get a bit more right to talk about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny how quickly people forget, or the player base rotates. I know we ran some old TBC instances this weekend and lots of people were clamouring to go see Magtheridon (!?) because they&#039;d never seen him.

If I told people some new fight was &#039;like Netherspite&#039; in my 10 mans, I think maybe half of them would know what I meant.

On the bright side, how long till my nether ray starts to look really really unusual! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny how quickly people forget, or the player base rotates. I know we ran some old TBC instances this weekend and lots of people were clamouring to go see Magtheridon (!?) because they&#8217;d never seen him.</p>
<p>If I told people some new fight was &#8216;like Netherspite&#8217; in my 10 mans, I think maybe half of them would know what I meant.</p>
<p>On the bright side, how long till my nether ray starts to look really really unusual! <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Artemes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artemes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually jumped into WoW a few months before Lich King came out. I ran around on my balance druid in the trial and the world seemed so big. People in Barrens chat were talking about outlands and I just thought all that was so unaccesable for me. They talked about raiding and I thought, wow, I&#039;ll never be there. They seemed like the elite, like I would never be able to do what they were doing.
After a while I grew bored with my druid and rolled a hunter. I leveled to 35 with my sister (rogue) and her boyfriend (warrior). We had fun, goofed off, leveled in STV, etc. They left and due to IRL problems I had to stop playing for a few months.
BOOM HERE COMES LICH KING.
I level my Hunter to 60 and buy Burning Crusade. Within a few months I was level 70 and on my way to Northrend.
Now the world isn&#039;t so big. I&#039;m flying around on my netherdrake in Outlands thinking about all the endgame (previous endgame) content I&#039;ll likely never experience. I&#039;ll probably never run those instances or raids I couldn&#039;t get a group for in Burning Crusade content.
It&#039;s sad, but true. Sure, I might solo some of it for the hell of it, but it&#039;s not quite the same as struggling through it, or pwning it&#039;s face in a completely PuG group.

dunno. I just wish I&#039;d come in earlier, so I could&#039;ve experienced BC, and even Vanilla WoW would&#039;ve been nice to experience.
Ah well. I&#039;ll enjoy Lich King until the next xpac comes out, then I&#039;ll likely enjoy that as well. :)
To some extent, that&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually jumped into WoW a few months before Lich King came out. I ran around on my balance druid in the trial and the world seemed so big. People in Barrens chat were talking about outlands and I just thought all that was so unaccesable for me. They talked about raiding and I thought, wow, I&#8217;ll never be there. They seemed like the elite, like I would never be able to do what they were doing.<br />
After a while I grew bored with my druid and rolled a hunter. I leveled to 35 with my sister (rogue) and her boyfriend (warrior). We had fun, goofed off, leveled in STV, etc. They left and due to IRL problems I had to stop playing for a few months.<br />
BOOM HERE COMES LICH KING.<br />
I level my Hunter to 60 and buy Burning Crusade. Within a few months I was level 70 and on my way to Northrend.<br />
Now the world isn&#8217;t so big. I&#8217;m flying around on my netherdrake in Outlands thinking about all the endgame (previous endgame) content I&#8217;ll likely never experience. I&#8217;ll probably never run those instances or raids I couldn&#8217;t get a group for in Burning Crusade content.<br />
It&#8217;s sad, but true. Sure, I might solo some of it for the hell of it, but it&#8217;s not quite the same as struggling through it, or pwning it&#8217;s face in a completely PuG group.</p>
<p>dunno. I just wish I&#8217;d come in earlier, so I could&#8217;ve experienced BC, and even Vanilla WoW would&#8217;ve been nice to experience.<br />
Ah well. I&#8217;ll enjoy Lich King until the next xpac comes out, then I&#8217;ll likely enjoy that as well. <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
To some extent, that&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember back in BC, we&#039;d fight Anzu in Heroic Sethekk, and people would say &quot;oh, he&#039;s just like Nightbane.&quot; When then half of our group was still working on heroics and had never been to KZ.

A good number of BC bosses were designed with mechanics taken from Naxx bosses, since so few people had been there. Second boss in blood furnace? Same poison clouds as Grobbulus. That guy in mechanar? Charges just like Thaddius.

What really makes me think though, is when we start saying &quot;oh yeah Thaddius? He&#039;s just like that guy in Mechanar.&quot; But Thaddius did it first! It&#039;s just duck-billed dinosaurs all over again.

--Kassari
Silver Hand (Alliance)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember back in BC, we&#8217;d fight Anzu in Heroic Sethekk, and people would say &#8220;oh, he&#8217;s just like Nightbane.&#8221; When then half of our group was still working on heroics and had never been to KZ.</p>
<p>A good number of BC bosses were designed with mechanics taken from Naxx bosses, since so few people had been there. Second boss in blood furnace? Same poison clouds as Grobbulus. That guy in mechanar? Charges just like Thaddius.</p>
<p>What really makes me think though, is when we start saying &#8220;oh yeah Thaddius? He&#8217;s just like that guy in Mechanar.&#8221; But Thaddius did it first! It&#8217;s just duck-billed dinosaurs all over again.</p>
<p>&#8211;Kassari<br />
Silver Hand (Alliance)</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like people for the first time watching a TV series that I love, I envy the people just starting out in WoW. I miss the days of leveling my first character(s), seeing the new areas for the first time, seeing the new monsters, NPCs, buildings, landmarks and so forth. I envy these players getting those achievements and titles like The Explorer, since it seems to carry so much more depth than those of us who ran around after the fact emptily gathering achievements without the sense of wonder and discovery.

I sometimes wish I could erase what I know of WoW and start fresh, to see it all again for the first time.
Alts just don&#039;t cut it as it&#039;s going through the motions with some slight differences here and there.

I started playing WoW the year before TBC was released, so for a very short while I was at the max level of 60. And you know, looking back, I really liked the game better then, it wasn&#039;t so huge, it didn&#039;t go after big numbers and big competition. We didn&#039;t have thousands of gold (or even need it), we didn&#039;t say if you&#039;re not getting 10k crits you&#039;re &quot;doing it wrong&quot; and crap like that. The game still had a sense of balance and control, and ever since it&#039;s been spinning wildly into an unwieldly weight and scope. I fear the game will keep going into bigger and bigger directions as long as there&#039;s big money to be made.

But I miss the old days.

Damn kids.

Get offa my lawn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like people for the first time watching a TV series that I love, I envy the people just starting out in WoW. I miss the days of leveling my first character(s), seeing the new areas for the first time, seeing the new monsters, NPCs, buildings, landmarks and so forth. I envy these players getting those achievements and titles like The Explorer, since it seems to carry so much more depth than those of us who ran around after the fact emptily gathering achievements without the sense of wonder and discovery.</p>
<p>I sometimes wish I could erase what I know of WoW and start fresh, to see it all again for the first time.<br />
Alts just don&#8217;t cut it as it&#8217;s going through the motions with some slight differences here and there.</p>
<p>I started playing WoW the year before TBC was released, so for a very short while I was at the max level of 60. And you know, looking back, I really liked the game better then, it wasn&#8217;t so huge, it didn&#8217;t go after big numbers and big competition. We didn&#8217;t have thousands of gold (or even need it), we didn&#8217;t say if you&#8217;re not getting 10k crits you&#8217;re &#8220;doing it wrong&#8221; and crap like that. The game still had a sense of balance and control, and ever since it&#8217;s been spinning wildly into an unwieldly weight and scope. I fear the game will keep going into bigger and bigger directions as long as there&#8217;s big money to be made.</p>
<p>But I miss the old days.</p>
<p>Damn kids.</p>
<p>Get offa my lawn!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I can&#039;t see the point of reaching level 80.
I have a level 65-ish? Blood Elf Hunter.
Not by pushing, grinding, questing, etc.
But simply by moseying along.
(That&#039;s another word these young ones don&#039;t know anymore.  /Sigh)

I take weeks, sometimes a month or two, just to gain a level.
I prefer to run around, see the world.
(And, in my case, dying VERY often.)

I am not really into raids and such.
But I prefer to take things head-on.
Knowing full well that I will be dead in less than 5 seconds.

But then I look around, and I see all these low level twinks, being accompanied by a Death Knight, or a any high level.
And they just rush past you, killing everything in their path.
At the end of the day, all they can show is a lot of epic gear and achievements.
They know nothing about the World or the Lore behind it.
They have no idea that there is a &quot;constant in-game joke/reference&quot; all around them.
They have no idea that He-man and Skeletor is in Shattrath City.
They have never seen the Lost Vikings.
Nor do they know about Mike Rowe (from Dirty Jobs).

Me?
I run around, exploring. Seeing stuff.
I admit, I am useless as a Hunter.
But I definitely win at &quot;Dying First&quot;.
Even worse at getting Gold.
I still can&#039;t even afford training for a fast mount.
At least I know most places to fall to your death.
Or to see a rare mob. (And then die.)

But I have seen interesting NPC&#039;s, mobs, and places.
Some day, I can tell my grandchildren that I didn&#039;t play WoW.
I experienced it.

(And since it is way past my bedtime, and I have to get up in four hours, I guess I will just mosey along then...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I can&#8217;t see the point of reaching level 80.<br />
I have a level 65-ish? Blood Elf Hunter.<br />
Not by pushing, grinding, questing, etc.<br />
But simply by moseying along.<br />
(That&#8217;s another word these young ones don&#8217;t know anymore.  /Sigh)</p>
<p>I take weeks, sometimes a month or two, just to gain a level.<br />
I prefer to run around, see the world.<br />
(And, in my case, dying VERY often.)</p>
<p>I am not really into raids and such.<br />
But I prefer to take things head-on.<br />
Knowing full well that I will be dead in less than 5 seconds.</p>
<p>But then I look around, and I see all these low level twinks, being accompanied by a Death Knight, or a any high level.<br />
And they just rush past you, killing everything in their path.<br />
At the end of the day, all they can show is a lot of epic gear and achievements.<br />
They know nothing about the World or the Lore behind it.<br />
They have no idea that there is a &#8220;constant in-game joke/reference&#8221; all around them.<br />
They have no idea that He-man and Skeletor is in Shattrath City.<br />
They have never seen the Lost Vikings.<br />
Nor do they know about Mike Rowe (from Dirty Jobs).</p>
<p>Me?<br />
I run around, exploring. Seeing stuff.<br />
I admit, I am useless as a Hunter.<br />
But I definitely win at &#8220;Dying First&#8221;.<br />
Even worse at getting Gold.<br />
I still can&#8217;t even afford training for a fast mount.<br />
At least I know most places to fall to your death.<br />
Or to see a rare mob. (And then die.)</p>
<p>But I have seen interesting NPC&#8217;s, mobs, and places.<br />
Some day, I can tell my grandchildren that I didn&#8217;t play WoW.<br />
I experienced it.</p>
<p>(And since it is way past my bedtime, and I have to get up in four hours, I guess I will just mosey along then&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Awlbiste</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awlbiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a baby WoWer there was only MC and no achievements. :&lt; I was discussing with my friend the other day about how soon people won&#039;t even remember what &quot;the paladin patch&quot; means or who Leeroy Jenkins even was(n&#039;t).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a baby WoWer there was only MC and no achievements. :&lt; I was discussing with my friend the other day about how soon people won&#8217;t even remember what &#8220;the paladin patch&#8221; means or who Leeroy Jenkins even was(n&#8217;t).</p>
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		<title>By: Negathle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Negathle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember getting keyed for Molten Core... and when UBRS still required a key (and was 15 man).  My fondest memories, no surprise, are of the Rhok quest, and soloing my demons.

Winterspring also makes me nostalgic, as well as Silithus.  And Felwood.  And Eastern Plaguelands...  Okay, yeah, I miss 1.0 a lot, not gonna lie.  Everything was just a little bit more complicated back in the day, and I enjoyed the multilayered aspect of the game that they phased out with 3.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember getting keyed for Molten Core&#8230; and when UBRS still required a key (and was 15 man).  My fondest memories, no surprise, are of the Rhok quest, and soloing my demons.</p>
<p>Winterspring also makes me nostalgic, as well as Silithus.  And Felwood.  And Eastern Plaguelands&#8230;  Okay, yeah, I miss 1.0 a lot, not gonna lie.  Everything was just a little bit more complicated back in the day, and I enjoyed the multilayered aspect of the game that they phased out with 3.0.</p>
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