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		<title>By: How To Kill A God &#171; Slow Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Kill A God &#171; Slow Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arcane Shot is not the majority of our damage: annoyingly enough, it&#8217;s Steady Shot.  Thanks to Pike from Aspect of the Hare, I&#8217;ve learned that Improved Tracking does more DPS than Improved Arcane Shot(I know it says [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Duct Tape and a Prayer &#187; Linksation 4/1/09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duct Tape and a Prayer &#187; Linksation 4/1/09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carnage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rilgon

  My original comment was directed more towards my dissapointment that I would have to drop charge, phoenix and lick wounds to get the last tier dps talents. The latter two have been very helpful in pet unfriendly fights and in &quot;oh spit&quot; solo situations which also results in my ability to sustain dps(3500 dps= 0 with no pet). The former, charge I am not so concerned with it is a dps,stun in exchange for a higher dps talent. Though the extra stun is nice.
  Haven&#039;t seen any ptr numbers yet myself, but if we are seeing 3500dps from bm devilsaurs im afraid we(BM) will see yet another unfriendly bat soon./sigh
  So hows MM going? And are Saronite bombs still good for you? I&#039;m leveling my engineering again:D

Peace
Carnage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rilgon</p>
<p>  My original comment was directed more towards my dissapointment that I would have to drop charge, phoenix and lick wounds to get the last tier dps talents. The latter two have been very helpful in pet unfriendly fights and in &#8220;oh spit&#8221; solo situations which also results in my ability to sustain dps(3500 dps= 0 with no pet). The former, charge I am not so concerned with it is a dps,stun in exchange for a higher dps talent. Though the extra stun is nice.<br />
  Haven&#8217;t seen any ptr numbers yet myself, but if we are seeing 3500dps from bm devilsaurs im afraid we(BM) will see yet another unfriendly bat soon./sigh<br />
  So hows MM going? And are Saronite bombs still good for you? I&#8217;m leveling my engineering again:D</p>
<p>Peace<br />
Carnage</p>
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		<title>By: Rilgon Arcsinh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rilgon Arcsinh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;51pt bm is a pretty lame talent as it is and isnt getting much better with 3.1&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Buh? The 51-point BM talent is why BM Hunters are breaking 5600+ on Patchwerk in 3.1. The extra four points in Shark Attack and Wild Hunt, plus having a Devilsaur, are huge. I know people on the PTR whose Devilsaurs do 3500+ by themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>51pt bm is a pretty lame talent as it is and isnt getting much better with 3.1</p></blockquote>
<p>Buh? The 51-point BM talent is why BM Hunters are breaking 5600+ on Patchwerk in 3.1. The extra four points in Shark Attack and Wild Hunt, plus having a Devilsaur, are huge. I know people on the PTR whose Devilsaurs do 3500+ by themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pike,

Well ive been running with my 52/14/5 http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfu0eRt0eVoZx build and found it to do very well. This allows for me to keep loq and 2/2 petmend. As per the dps spreadsheets the 2 extra pts in lethal shots improves my dps more than using them in surv instincts. So it seems 12% more crit dmg bonus to all shots beats 4% more chance to crit with 2 shots.

  At least with my current gear and pet talents.

  51pt bm is a pretty lame talent as it is and isnt getting much better with 3.1 its still worth it to me for my current Sprirt beast :D

Happy Hunting
Carnage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pike,</p>
<p>Well ive been running with my 52/14/5 <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfu0eRt0eVoZx" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfu0eRt0eVoZx</a> build and found it to do very well. This allows for me to keep loq and 2/2 petmend. As per the dps spreadsheets the 2 extra pts in lethal shots improves my dps more than using them in surv instincts. So it seems 12% more crit dmg bonus to all shots beats 4% more chance to crit with 2 shots.</p>
<p>  At least with my current gear and pet talents.</p>
<p>  51pt bm is a pretty lame talent as it is and isnt getting much better with 3.1 its still worth it to me for my current Sprirt beast <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Happy Hunting<br />
Carnage</p>
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		<title>By: Theaah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theaah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I&#039;m running as SV right now and will probably stay as SV for 3.1 (since I fell in love with it), I&#039;ve followed BM specs a bit since I switched. I&#039;m personally more in favor of Imp. Tracking mostly because it feels like overall more of an increase than Imp. Arcane Shot. The last time I raided as BM was right after the big nerf and I found that my Arcane shot was just doing too low a percentage of my overall damage (I think it was only about 3 or 5% or something? I can&#039;t even remember) for me to be able to justify Imp. Arcane shot.

But, as you said, it is always better to test out the specs yourself since gear, playstyle, latency, etc all make your actual numbers very different than in the spreadsheet.

I think my second spec for dual-spec is going to be BM though, since I really want the new spirit beast. &gt;_&gt;
(It&#039;s a purple tiger. I have an obsession with both tigers and the colour purple.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I&#8217;m running as SV right now and will probably stay as SV for 3.1 (since I fell in love with it), I&#8217;ve followed BM specs a bit since I switched. I&#8217;m personally more in favor of Imp. Tracking mostly because it feels like overall more of an increase than Imp. Arcane Shot. The last time I raided as BM was right after the big nerf and I found that my Arcane shot was just doing too low a percentage of my overall damage (I think it was only about 3 or 5% or something? I can&#8217;t even remember) for me to be able to justify Imp. Arcane shot.</p>
<p>But, as you said, it is always better to test out the specs yourself since gear, playstyle, latency, etc all make your actual numbers very different than in the spreadsheet.</p>
<p>I think my second spec for dual-spec is going to be BM though, since I really want the new spirit beast. &gt;_&gt;<br />
(It&#8217;s a purple tiger. I have an obsession with both tigers and the colour purple.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dechion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dechion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did it work out for you?

I am running Survival right now for the extra dps, but I am sooooo looking forward to going back to beastmastery.

I just keep trying to talk myself into waiting till 3.1 with it&#039;s free respec and dual spec option.

/sigh

Hope it went well for you =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did it work out for you?</p>
<p>I am running Survival right now for the extra dps, but I am sooooo looking forward to going back to beastmastery.</p>
<p>I just keep trying to talk myself into waiting till 3.1 with it&#8217;s free respec and dual spec option.</p>
<p>/sigh</p>
<p>Hope it went well for you =)</p>
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		<title>By: Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I took a point from Frenzy and stuck it into IMP.  Cobra Strikes, I dunno, I considered making that switch but in the end I&#039;m sticking with 3/3 for now.  I think I will take this spec to Naxx today and then report back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I took a point from Frenzy and stuck it into IMP.  Cobra Strikes, I dunno, I considered making that switch but in the end I&#8217;m sticking with 3/3 for now.  I think I will take this spec to Naxx today and then report back.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Haze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo Haze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinkering with it, what about  http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfu0eRt0ecoZx00b     ?

Basically I traded a couple of points around to (1) Get BeastMaster back.. Sorry, OmNomNomNom &gt;&gt; Copy for damage output (Devilsaur vs Cat) and (2) get your 2/2 Imp Mend Pet.

I dropped a point from Cobra and a point from Frenzy. Don&#039;t see why they&#039;re claiming 4/5 of Frenzy is needed again, right now only 3 points are &#039;necessary&#039; to keep it up most of the time. Dunno how much of a &#039;nerf&#039; one point out of Cobra will be though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tinkering with it, what about  <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfu0eRt0ecoZx00b" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRfu0eRt0ecoZx00b</a>     ?</p>
<p>Basically I traded a couple of points around to (1) Get BeastMaster back.. Sorry, OmNomNomNom &gt;&gt; Copy for damage output (Devilsaur vs Cat) and (2) get your 2/2 Imp Mend Pet.</p>
<p>I dropped a point from Cobra and a point from Frenzy. Don&#8217;t see why they&#8217;re claiming 4/5 of Frenzy is needed again, right now only 3 points are &#8216;necessary&#8217; to keep it up most of the time. Dunno how much of a &#8216;nerf&#8217; one point out of Cobra will be though&#8230;</p>
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