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		<title>By: LytLady</title>
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		<dc:creator>LytLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you already spec&#039;d back to BM. I actually level&#039;d as MM, but the guild I use to be in had me spec BM. I am now in a different guild and I am contemplating on returning to MM. Unfortunately I can&#039;t dip into SV &amp; pick up trapping like I used to be able to... Darn.. Hmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you already spec&#8217;d back to BM. I actually level&#8217;d as MM, but the guild I use to be in had me spec BM. I am now in a different guild and I am contemplating on returning to MM. Unfortunately I can&#8217;t dip into SV &amp; pick up trapping like I used to be able to&#8230; Darn.. Hmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Ringo Flinthammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ringo Flinthammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to Marksman Country! Chimera Shot has always been a hoot -- even if the Viper effect doesn&#039;t work right at the moment.

I definitely second what was said about Misdirect. I found a nice macro (I think at EJ, but make at WoWWiki) that smartly sends the MD to the appropriate tank, depending on whether you&#039;re solo or grouped.

That said, I&#039;ve been Marksman since level 11 back in 2004 and have not bowed to the Flavor of the Month thing. If you really do prefer BM, I say stick with it. At the current raiding tier, it&#039;s not that big of a deal if you&#039;re a bit behind other hunters. (Obviously, things may be very different by the time we&#039;re kicking down the front door of Icecrown Citadel.)

Of course, when dual specs come along, I&#039;ll either have a Survival secondary spec, or a min/maxed PvP one (or maybe a compromise between the two), so I can see the value in taking another spec for a trial run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Marksman Country! Chimera Shot has always been a hoot &#8212; even if the Viper effect doesn&#8217;t work right at the moment.</p>
<p>I definitely second what was said about Misdirect. I found a nice macro (I think at EJ, but make at WoWWiki) that smartly sends the MD to the appropriate tank, depending on whether you&#8217;re solo or grouped.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ve been Marksman since level 11 back in 2004 and have not bowed to the Flavor of the Month thing. If you really do prefer BM, I say stick with it. At the current raiding tier, it&#8217;s not that big of a deal if you&#8217;re a bit behind other hunters. (Obviously, things may be very different by the time we&#8217;re kicking down the front door of Icecrown Citadel.)</p>
<p>Of course, when dual specs come along, I&#8217;ll either have a Survival secondary spec, or a min/maxed PvP one (or maybe a compromise between the two), so I can see the value in taking another spec for a trial run.</p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Mage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stupid Mage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;-gives Pike a look with daggers in it-

Where shall the last bastion of BM be, I wonder?

First BRK, now you, Pike!

Whyyyy?!?&quot;


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Be happy she&#039;s still playing a Hunter instead of a Druid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;-gives Pike a look with daggers in it-</p>
<p>Where shall the last bastion of BM be, I wonder?</p>
<p>First BRK, now you, Pike!</p>
<p>Whyyyy?!?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Be happy she&#8217;s still playing a Hunter instead of a Druid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sonvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not letting go of BM until dual specs in which I&#039;ll switch to Survival if Replenishment is needed.   Maybe I&#039;m not playing against the right geared people but I&#039;ve still found myself on top of dps charts in Heroics and 10 man Naxx runs.   Besides once the mass of raiders go to Surv it means they&#039;ll look at BM again and maybe undo some of those nerfs to balance out the damage.   I agree though that Surv with that Lock and Load proc is weird.  Especially with it&#039;s low proc rate on serpent sting since traps on boss fights isn&#039;t going to work well.

Though out of all the nerfs I really feel the scorpid one was the most deserved as a &quot;tanking&quot; type pet shouldn&#039;t be dishing out as much damage as a pure &quot;dps&quot; pet is.

@Mithrilina
I disagree with the first point.   The pet does much more than be pretty.   It&#039;s just that since the pet is bringing less damage you look more for just a pet that brings some good utility which opens up a lot of those Cunning pets PvE wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not letting go of BM until dual specs in which I&#8217;ll switch to Survival if Replenishment is needed.   Maybe I&#8217;m not playing against the right geared people but I&#8217;ve still found myself on top of dps charts in Heroics and 10 man Naxx runs.   Besides once the mass of raiders go to Surv it means they&#8217;ll look at BM again and maybe undo some of those nerfs to balance out the damage.   I agree though that Surv with that Lock and Load proc is weird.  Especially with it&#8217;s low proc rate on serpent sting since traps on boss fights isn&#8217;t going to work well.</p>
<p>Though out of all the nerfs I really feel the scorpid one was the most deserved as a &#8220;tanking&#8221; type pet shouldn&#8217;t be dishing out as much damage as a pure &#8220;dps&#8221; pet is.</p>
<p>@Mithrilina<br />
I disagree with the first point.   The pet does much more than be pretty.   It&#8217;s just that since the pet is bringing less damage you look more for just a pet that brings some good utility which opens up a lot of those Cunning pets PvE wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Shagrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shagrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word on the grapevine is that cats are STILL the top for damage if that&#039;s what you&#039;re looking for.  But personally, I like raiding with a wasp.  It gives a nice debuff (unless you have a druid overwriting it) and being a ferocity pet, does some good damage to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word on the grapevine is that cats are STILL the top for damage if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re looking for.  But personally, I like raiding with a wasp.  It gives a nice debuff (unless you have a druid overwriting it) and being a ferocity pet, does some good damage to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bristal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bristal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I FINALLY got around to getting a devilsaur last weekend to up my damage output, and now everyone&#039;s re-speccing!?  So, with SV or MM does it even matter which type of pet we have?  I&#039;m actually kind of glad, the pounding footsteps were making me nuts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I FINALLY got around to getting a devilsaur last weekend to up my damage output, and now everyone&#8217;s re-speccing!?  So, with SV or MM does it even matter which type of pet we have?  I&#8217;m actually kind of glad, the pounding footsteps were making me nuts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shagrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shagrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love doing the FSPR, although sometimes I fall into the trap of watching my cooldowns instead of the enviroment, which is almost gotten me killed a few times.  Marks is fun though, I must admit but my spirit beast is sitting my stables, waiting for the dual-specs and the rebuff to the BM tree that it really needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love doing the FSPR, although sometimes I fall into the trap of watching my cooldowns instead of the enviroment, which is almost gotten me killed a few times.  Marks is fun though, I must admit but my spirit beast is sitting my stables, waiting for the dual-specs and the rebuff to the BM tree that it really needs.</p>
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		<title>By: eresin</title>
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		<dc:creator>eresin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m scared that if I try MM or SV then i&#039;ll want to give up my Spirit Beast.  I know it&#039;s only a pet and there are plenty of other pets out there.
I guess I&#039;m materialistic :-(
&lt;3 my beasty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m scared that if I try MM or SV then i&#8217;ll want to give up my Spirit Beast.  I know it&#8217;s only a pet and there are plenty of other pets out there.<br />
I guess I&#8217;m materialistic <img src='http://www.aspectofthehare.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&lt;3 my beasty!</p>
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		<title>By: Rilgon Arcsinh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rilgon Arcsinh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Henceforth, your pet’s main job is to be cute, and anything vicious is an afterthought.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ayamiss begs to differ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Henceforth, your pet’s main job is to be cute, and anything vicious is an afterthought.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ayamiss begs to differ!</p>
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		<title>By: Mithrilina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mithrilina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee, hee, all you ex-BM hunters moving to MM... get used to a few things, and do so quickly before MM becomes a bad experience that hurts your reputation:

1. Your pet is now a wimp. No more &quot;red and growly&quot; mode. Henceforth, your pet&#039;s main job is to be cute, and anything vicious is an afterthought.

2. Learn to Misdirect to your pet, and when you&#039;re solo-killing Elites, do so often. In groups, misdirect to the tank whenever Misdirection is off cooldown.

3. Your personal DPS has sky-rocketed and your pet&#039;s has plummeted drastically. DPS is no longer a 60/40 split between you, but more likely 80/20 or even 90/10.

4. As a result of point 3, you will find your threat meter displaying all kinds of unbelievable things about how much the bosses hate you - learn to anticipate this, because the combined threat created by you and your pet is no longer an almost equal split.

5. Feign Death is your friend. Use it a lot, because you&#039;re going to need it. A lot.

Happy huntering as MM hunters! It is a lovely and engrossing spec without the weirdness of Survival&#039;s on-proc rotation shifting, and one I love returning to every once in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee, hee, all you ex-BM hunters moving to MM&#8230; get used to a few things, and do so quickly before MM becomes a bad experience that hurts your reputation:</p>
<p>1. Your pet is now a wimp. No more &#8220;red and growly&#8221; mode. Henceforth, your pet&#8217;s main job is to be cute, and anything vicious is an afterthought.</p>
<p>2. Learn to Misdirect to your pet, and when you&#8217;re solo-killing Elites, do so often. In groups, misdirect to the tank whenever Misdirection is off cooldown.</p>
<p>3. Your personal DPS has sky-rocketed and your pet&#8217;s has plummeted drastically. DPS is no longer a 60/40 split between you, but more likely 80/20 or even 90/10.</p>
<p>4. As a result of point 3, you will find your threat meter displaying all kinds of unbelievable things about how much the bosses hate you &#8211; learn to anticipate this, because the combined threat created by you and your pet is no longer an almost equal split.</p>
<p>5. Feign Death is your friend. Use it a lot, because you&#8217;re going to need it. A lot.</p>
<p>Happy huntering as MM hunters! It is a lovely and engrossing spec without the weirdness of Survival&#8217;s on-proc rotation shifting, and one I love returning to every once in a while.</p>
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